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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://www.fakeplasticrock.com/2008/11/ultra-premium-fake-plastic-guitars/comment-page-1/#comment-13377</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much discussion here the last year.  Thought I&#039;d add a couple of observations.  I&#039;ve purchased both the MadCatz Wooden Fender replica (in Metallic Cherry), and the Logitech (only available in Orange) for the 360.  I&#039;ve had about 6 weeks with the logitech, and 2 more weeks on the MadCatz.  

Both of these pieces are stunning in person and each plays very differently.  The MadCatz is truly a full-size Fender, and weighs nearly 7 pounds.  The logitech is heavy as well, but not as heavy or as long as the MadCatz.  Strum bars are very differnent on each model: the logitech is silent and long; the Madcatz has a firm, quiet &quot;click&quot;.  Same goes for the fret buttons.  The Madcatz buttons are smooth, easily engage at any place on the button, and always register, even with slight pressure.  The logitech buttons aren&#039;t as easy to engage, and from side angles, I found myself pressing the button (with the side of my finger during slides for example), and occasionaly the button didn&#039;t register.  This got a bit annoying actually.  On this basis, I found myself preferring the MadCatz unit.

The real test is how do these models play?  For background, I&#039;m a good buy not great RB guitarist.  I can finish all songs on hard, and about 80% of them on expert at present.  I&#039;ve gold-starred a few easy songs, and some passages are just tough.  As an experiment, I took a passage that&#039;s always been hard for me - the solo section in Molly Hatchet&#039;s Flirting with Disaster.  I&#039;ve never completed this before without overdrive.

On my stock GH3 controller, I just struggled with this section.  On the logitech, I found I could make it through the solo, but just barely with use of overdrive.  I felt like either my strums or button hit just weren&#039;t all registering.

Finally, I&#039;ve tried this on the Madcatz.  The difference is night and day.  I easily cleared the solo and the song without overdrive.  5 stars on expert, a new record for me.  I found the fast fretwork was just so much easier, I could get the rhythm in my hammerons very easily on these buttons.  Further, the &quot;click&quot; strum bar seemed more precise in the many fast sections from this and other songs.

All-in-all, my preference is pretty strongly for the Madcatz Wooden Strat.  It feels great, is heavy, and long.  My scores have noticeably improved with this over the Logitech unit I had been using.  Prior to the Madcatz, the Logitech was my favorite, but having played the Madcatz, the few shortcoming in the Logitech (slightly imprecise strum bar; mushy buttons which lack hard engagement as some funny angles) become more apparent.

I found the Madcatz online for $200, and the Logitech at buy.com for $99 including free shipping!  This later price is a killer deal, well worth the investment.  Either of these are dramatic improvements over the plastic units, IMHO.

YMMV,

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much discussion here the last year.  Thought I&#8217;d add a couple of observations.  I&#8217;ve purchased both the MadCatz Wooden Fender replica (in Metallic Cherry), and the Logitech (only available in Orange) for the 360.  I&#8217;ve had about 6 weeks with the logitech, and 2 more weeks on the MadCatz.  </p>
<p>Both of these pieces are stunning in person and each plays very differently.  The MadCatz is truly a full-size Fender, and weighs nearly 7 pounds.  The logitech is heavy as well, but not as heavy or as long as the MadCatz.  Strum bars are very differnent on each model: the logitech is silent and long; the Madcatz has a firm, quiet &#8220;click&#8221;.  Same goes for the fret buttons.  The Madcatz buttons are smooth, easily engage at any place on the button, and always register, even with slight pressure.  The logitech buttons aren&#8217;t as easy to engage, and from side angles, I found myself pressing the button (with the side of my finger during slides for example), and occasionaly the button didn&#8217;t register.  This got a bit annoying actually.  On this basis, I found myself preferring the MadCatz unit.</p>
<p>The real test is how do these models play?  For background, I&#8217;m a good buy not great RB guitarist.  I can finish all songs on hard, and about 80% of them on expert at present.  I&#8217;ve gold-starred a few easy songs, and some passages are just tough.  As an experiment, I took a passage that&#8217;s always been hard for me &#8211; the solo section in Molly Hatchet&#8217;s Flirting with Disaster.  I&#8217;ve never completed this before without overdrive.</p>
<p>On my stock GH3 controller, I just struggled with this section.  On the logitech, I found I could make it through the solo, but just barely with use of overdrive.  I felt like either my strums or button hit just weren&#8217;t all registering.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;ve tried this on the Madcatz.  The difference is night and day.  I easily cleared the solo and the song without overdrive.  5 stars on expert, a new record for me.  I found the fast fretwork was just so much easier, I could get the rhythm in my hammerons very easily on these buttons.  Further, the &#8220;click&#8221; strum bar seemed more precise in the many fast sections from this and other songs.</p>
<p>All-in-all, my preference is pretty strongly for the Madcatz Wooden Strat.  It feels great, is heavy, and long.  My scores have noticeably improved with this over the Logitech unit I had been using.  Prior to the Madcatz, the Logitech was my favorite, but having played the Madcatz, the few shortcoming in the Logitech (slightly imprecise strum bar; mushy buttons which lack hard engagement as some funny angles) become more apparent.</p>
<p>I found the Madcatz online for $200, and the Logitech at buy.com for $99 including free shipping!  This later price is a killer deal, well worth the investment.  Either of these are dramatic improvements over the plastic units, IMHO.</p>
<p>YMMV,</p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Atwood</title>
		<link>http://www.fakeplasticrock.com/2008/11/ultra-premium-fake-plastic-guitars/comment-page-1/#comment-8067</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peak Starpex (PS2/PS3) on sale at big lots for $60 (!!)

http://www.shopbiglots.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3551586&amp;page=4&amp;sort=price-desc&amp;cp=3314980</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peak Starpex (PS2/PS3) on sale at big lots for $60 (!!)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shopbiglots.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3551586&#038;page=4&#038;sort=price-desc&#038;cp=3314980" rel="nofollow">http://www.shopbiglots.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3551586&#038;page=4&#038;sort=price-desc&#038;cp=3314980</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Atwood</title>
		<link>http://www.fakeplasticrock.com/2008/11/ultra-premium-fake-plastic-guitars/comment-page-1/#comment-7141</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheaper, refined version of the Logitech guitar

http://blog.logitech.com/2009/05/12/wireless-guitar-controller-for-ps3-and-ps2-logitechs-guitar-hero-guitar-is-back-in-black/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheaper, refined version of the Logitech guitar</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.logitech.com/2009/05/12/wireless-guitar-controller-for-ps3-and-ps2-logitechs-guitar-hero-guitar-is-back-in-black/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.logitech.com/2009/05/12/wireless-guitar-controller-for-ps3-and-ps2-logitechs-guitar-hero-guitar-is-back-in-black/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Atwood</title>
		<link>http://www.fakeplasticrock.com/2008/11/ultra-premium-fake-plastic-guitars/comment-page-1/#comment-2164</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, MatCatz has some wooden Fender replica guitars that apparently won&#039;t ship this year:

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14257567/rock-band-2-game-only-/videos/rb2madcatz03_091808.html

Both Bass and Guitar models. These are a bit more RB centric, as they have the effects switch and not the touchpad of the Logitech model above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, MatCatz has some wooden Fender replica guitars that apparently won&#8217;t ship this year:</p>
<p><a href="http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14257567/rock-band-2-game-only-/videos/rb2madcatz03_091808.html" rel="nofollow">http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14257567/rock-band-2-game-only-/videos/rb2madcatz03_091808.html</a></p>
<p>Both Bass and Guitar models. These are a bit more RB centric, as they have the effects switch and not the touchpad of the Logitech model above.</p>
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		<title>By: Guitarinstructor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guitarinstructor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks pretty good- the style, model &amp; color. And I don&#039;t know the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks pretty good- the style, model &amp; color. And I don&#8217;t know the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Woodshed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woodshed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know man.  The Starpex looks pretty good when getting smashed by the November 2008 Playmate of the Month =) 

SFW: http://www.playboy.com/playmates/features/school-of-rock/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know man.  The Starpex looks pretty good when getting smashed by the November 2008 Playmate of the Month =) </p>
<p>SFW: <a href="http://www.playboy.com/playmates/features/school-of-rock/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.playboy.com/playmates/features/school-of-rock/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be an over corrective jerk, but you would have to blame Jake E. Lee, not Randy Rhodes.

~J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be an over corrective jerk, but you would have to blame Jake E. Lee, not Randy Rhodes.</p>
<p>~J</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh btw if you wanted to check it out, www.geekfortress.com is the site. http://geekfortress.com/?p=39 is the post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh btw if you wanted to check it out, <a href="http://www.geekfortress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.geekfortress.com</a> is the site. <a href="http://geekfortress.com/?p=39" rel="nofollow">http://geekfortress.com/?p=39</a> is the post</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude this post is awesome. I wrote one just like it a week or so ago, you should check it out.

I dont know how I found it but i totally RSS you ;) lata</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude this post is awesome. I wrote one just like it a week or so ago, you should check it out.</p>
<p>I dont know how I found it but i totally RSS you ;) lata</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Atwood</title>
		<link>http://www.fakeplasticrock.com/2008/11/ultra-premium-fake-plastic-guitars/comment-page-1/#comment-1776</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I hadn&#039;t heard of the starpex!

http://gizmodo.com/5025918/starpex-full+size-wooden-guitar-for-the-ps2-and-ps3

Personally, I&#039;d say that the Logitech guitar LOOKS about 3x more professional than the starpex!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I hadn&#8217;t heard of the starpex!</p>
<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5025918/starpex-full+size-wooden-guitar-for-the-ps2-and-ps3" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5025918/starpex-full+size-wooden-guitar-for-the-ps2-and-ps3</a></p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d say that the Logitech guitar LOOKS about 3x more professional than the starpex!</p>
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