September 23, 2011

Real Drum Kick Pedal for Ion Drums

After finally getting the Ion Drum Rocker, and drumming for a while on it, I realized that the included pedal, while not bad, isn’t quite… right.

Most drum kits have two pedals standard: the hi-hat cymbal pedal, and the kick drum pedal.

All standard plastic Rock Band pedals, and even the fancy metal Roadie pedal included with the Ion drums, are more like hi-hat pedals than actual kick drum pedals. On a real kick drum pedal, there’s a chain pulling a beater which strikes the bass drum.

Drumming is very much about striking surfaces and having a kick drum pedal that actually strikes a surface is every bit as essential as having drum pads that you hit with a drumstick instead of pressing a button on a controller (or keyboard, for that matter). I was never into drum pedal fetishism, but after reading a bit more about it, and spending more time playing on the Ion drums, this important difference finally began to make sense to me. The Ion drums are otherwise quite authentic as a basic entry level electronic drum kit, with the notable exception of the pedal.

So I decided to order the following Ion drum “real” kick pedal upgrade kit from for $149:

The Roadie VTI Trigger Box isn’t strictly necessary, depending on your configuration, but it does ensure that whatever drum and pedal combo you eventually use, it’ll work. It offers polarity, sensitivity, and duration tweaks that make most piezo drum trigger pads work with either the Ion drums (¼” connector) or the stock Rock Band 2/3 drums (⅛” connector). And all the necessary cables are included, too.

One thing I didn’t like about the Roadie box is that it adds quite a bit of complexity to the already-complex Ion drum configuration, seeing as how it needs its own power and has two adjustable trims. However, there is a solution — the KickWire.

The KickWire is a bit expensive at $27 plus shipping, but personally it was worth it to me for the much simpler configuration of just a basic wire (presumably with some kind of inline resistor) to connect the kick tower to the Ion drum brain.

The Yamaha KP65 was my choice because it’s quiet — about as loud as striking the Ion pads — inexpensive, reliable, and has a nifty built in sensitivity adjustment to boot. There’s a nice comparison video of the Roland KD-8 and the Yamaha KP65 here, if you want to hear and see it in action.

The KP65 and the pedal can be “mated” together via a clamp on the front of the pedal itself, so they form one semi-solid unit. Here’s a picture of mine:

Having a pedal with a chain driving a beater, striking a kick drum surface, completely changes the feel of the pedal… for the better! For one thing, you can now hear and feel a solid “thwack” when you kick, and actually get a rhythm going on the kick by ear! Compare that with the stock Rock Band or Roadie Ion pedal, where at best you get the sterile click of an electronic switch being pressed down by your foot. It’s a very, very different experience, with a nice organic rebound based on the mass of the beater and the chain pull. Is it slightly noisier? Of course, but at least with the KP65 it is only roughly as noisy as a stick hitting an Ion pad, which is about as good as it gets.

The only downside of the real pedal configuration is the price — considering the Ion drum kit is $300 with the extra cymbal, adding a pedal ($50) and the electronic kick drum ($60) and the wire to connect them ($30) is almost half the price of the entire drum kit!

If you’re enthused about drumming enough to go for the Ion Drum Rocker, then I can definitely recommend a real pedal upgrade. However, it ain’t cheap by any means — you’ll have to decide if spending $450 versus $300 is worth it to you for that final essential bit of authentic entry-level electronic drumming.

Thanks for taking the time to write this up, Jeff. I’ve been looking to upgrade my pedal and your research here is awesome!

September 24, 2011 at 8:53 am

Also, my drums are on tile, so I use an anti-slip friction mat under the pedal to keep it from sliding:

(bottom picture)

Works well so far!

Jeff Atwood
September 25, 2011 at 12:44 am

After my RB1 pedal broke, I took the ‘pedal’ part that you rest your foot on, off. I zip-tied the body of the pedal to a plank that is roughly the same size, and then I managed to zip-tie that to the leg of my RB2 drum kit. I used a sock with a piece of hard styrofoam taped to the pedal body to muffle to clacking, and taped a rather large hematite magnet just underneath the beater head of my Pearl kick pedal (bought just for RB). The beater is a bit heavier than usual, but other than that, it works flawlessly.

I figured it would be a handy kludge till I figured out something better, but I’m still using it.

December 7, 2011 at 10:46 am

This information is 100% although some of the products have been upgraded themselves. My project included the Yamaha KP65 and the foot pedal being the Yamaha fp4600 direct drive the add the kickwire and bam your done

June 11, 2014 at 12:37 pm

The kick wire and roadie box aren’t available any more. I was looking at the Yamaha input and buying my own pedal. I’ve read that the Yamaha has sensitivity adjustability on the back now. Is it possible it would work alone with the ion kit?

January 21, 2017 at 7:40 am

I’ll be ordering the kick tower soon (also ordering a double-bass pedal rather than single pedal), and I’ll be trying it with the ION Drum Rocker with Rock Band 4 on the Xbox One. The Roadie trigger interface doesn’t seem to be available anywhere (at least, not anywhere I’m comfortable leaving my billing info!). Hopefully I won’t need it. Stay tuned for an update on if and how well it works!

Mike M.
August 17, 2017 at 6:42 am

So just an update: I was looking to use the drum pad in RB4 on Xbox One. Unfortunately, the drum pad didn’t work right straight out of the box, and as I said before, the trigger box isn’t available, nor is the Kickbox.

As of right now, there doesn’t seem to be a way to successfully use a bass pad in RB4. So don’t waste your money. If and when a way arises, I’ll try to remember to update this.

Also, if you haven’t already (it seriously took me 8 years to even learn about it), you should modify your pads up top with mesh heads. Tutorials can be found on Youtube. Totally worth the time and money.


Mike M.
August 29, 2017 at 5:10 pm

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